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    Installing Ubuntu 9.10 on an Acer Extensa 5235

    Hello there,

    Im new here and new to Linux. Im a professional web developer and therefore thought it would be usefull to learn some Linux and administer my own Linux server. Heard a lot about Ubuntu and it sounds good, so Ubuntu seems a good choise.

    I specifically bought myself an Acer Extensa 5235 for the purpose of playing with a Linux server. I downloaded Ubuntu 9.10 64bit, burned it to a CD and started the installation on my laptop.

    The first problem came when Ubuntu told me he couldn't find any network interfaces. I have the laptop plugged in on the wired network and I tried the connection before installation on the pre installed Windows on the laptop. And my connection was fine in Windows. Ubuntu gave me this message:

    Code:
    Configure the network
    
    No network interfaces detected
    
    No network interfaces were found. The installation system was unable to find a network device.
    
    You may need to load a specific module for your network card, if you have one. For this, go back to the network hardware detection step.
    To bad I tought, but lets just continue with the installation. Everytime he asked for some settings, I just left it to the default.

    Then he came at the point where he asked me if I wanted to install additional software.

    Code:
    Software selection
    
    At the moment, only the core of the system is installed. To tune the system to your needs, you can choose to install one or more of the following predefined collections of software.
    I choose the following software:

    • LAMP server
    • Mail server
    • OpenSSH server
    • Samba file server


    He went on, installing that software, asking for some settings once in a while. Then he came back to me with the following error:

    Code:
    Select and install software
    
    Installation step failed
    
    An installation step failed. You can try to run the failing item again from the menu or skip it and choose something else. The failing step is: Select and install software
    That's not looking good. So I retried the whole installation of Linux (again the warning that no network interfaces could be found), but then without selecting any additional software, just to see if that would work. And it did work. Ubuntu finished the installation.

    So now Linux could boot, and it did. Some text was going by and then the screen went black. And it stayed black. And I could hit the keyboard however I want, but the screen stayed black.

    So thats actually three problems in a row:

    1. No network interface found
    2. Install software fails
    3. Black screen after launching Ubuntu


    By the way, I have DHCP on my network

    I hope someone can help me with these problems. Am I doing something wrong or have I just bought the wrong laptop (or both )?

    Thanks in advance for any help!

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    Re: Installing Ubuntu 9.10 on an Acer Extensa 5235

    I tried with installing only
    LAMP server
    OpenSSH server

    So the error about installing software lies with one of these:
    Mail server
    Samba file server

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    Re: Installing Ubuntu 9.10 on an Acer Extensa 5235

    I ran into this once before. When you get to the Software selection screen do not select anything. After the install is complete you can get back to this software selection by using the command:

    sudo tasksel

    This will bring up the software selection and installation screen.

    You will need to work out your networking issues first though. Do you plan on sticking with Windows as your primary OS? If so, you may want to think of running Ubuntu Server as a Virtual Machine with VirtualBox on Windows.

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    Re: Installing Ubuntu 9.10 on an Acer Extensa 5235

    Ah thanks, I'll try that.

    No Windows was just pre installed, but I formatted the whole hard disk for Ubuntu. It will be a dedicated Ubuntu server.

    The weirdest part is that I get that black screen after launching Ubuntu (after I correctly installed it). Just the black screen and I can't seem to do anything. So I cant even try that command you gave me, or, somehow, try to fix the network. I just can't do anything.

    I hope someone knows what I'm talking about?

    Thanks again!

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    Re: Installing Ubuntu 9.10 on an Acer Extensa 5235

    hello Slotkenov!

    i am working with 910 on an extensa 5235 as well and have the same blank screen ... as long as i dont add a i915.modeset=0.

    i can only assume it is about KMS and that the screenwidth of 1366 isnt working out of the box. so, as long as there isnt a bugfix, this workaround is really great to live with. i am working with my machine since 3 weeks rock solid incl. all compiz hardware accelaration and desktop effects. if you want to give it a try, make a test ride with the live cd in the following way ...

    - startup from the live cd!
    - choose your language in the language menu
    - press F6 for the bootparameters menu
    - press esc to get back to the main menu
    - type in the modeset: 'i915.modeset=0'
    - press enter to start the live cd test drive

    the i915 command can be also used in the grub menu, on startup hold down the shift key, you will get the list of installed kernels, just type 'e' to get into edit mode and insert the i915.modeset=0 right behind the splash quiet commands, after this just press ctrl + x to boot the machine with this setup.

    the screen should work now, so it did for me! later on you can make this setup fix in the grub.cfg file, but for now, you just try this setup if it works fine for you. hope this helps!

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    Re: Installing Ubuntu 9.10 on an Acer Extensa 5235

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGM View Post
    the i915 command can be also used in the grub menu, on startup hold down the shift key, you will get the list of installed kernels, just type 'e' to get into edit mode and insert the i915.modeset=0 right behind the splash quiet commands, after this just press ctrl + x to boot the machine with this setup.

    the screen should work now, so it did for me! later on you can make this setup fix in the grub.cfg file, but for now, you just try this setup if it works fine for you. hope this helps!
    Thats great, it works! Many thanks.

    Now on to the next step. The most logical step would ofcourse be changing that grub.cfg file you mentioned. So I won't have to type it every time I boot.

    Found the file and took a look at it. But it doesn't look like the code I saw in the edit screen when booting. You have any idea how to edit this file so it would work permanently?

    ps First thing I saw in the file was: DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE

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    Re: Installing Ubuntu 9.10 on an Acer Extensa 5235

    wonderful!

    now that you know it works, you can add the command to your grub.cfg file!

    mine looks like this:

    Code:
    #
    # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
    #
    # It is automatically generated by /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig using templates
    # from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
    #
    
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
    if [ -s /boot/grub/grubenv ]; then
      have_grubenv=true
      load_env
    fi
    set default="0"
    if [ ${prev_saved_entry} ]; then
      saved_entry=${prev_saved_entry}
      save_env saved_entry
      prev_saved_entry=
      save_env prev_saved_entry
    fi
    insmod ext2
    set root=(hd0,1)
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set f5e03e0b-c66a-4fa5-8bd9-0b8d5712f3cd
    if loadfont /usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2 ; then
      set gfxmode=640x480
      insmod gfxterm
      insmod vbe
      if terminal_output gfxterm ; then true ; else
        # For backward compatibility with versions of terminal.mod that don't
        # understand terminal_output
        terminal gfxterm
      fi
    fi
    if [ ${recordfail} = 1 ]; then
      set timeout=-1
    else
      set timeout=10
    fi
    ### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
    
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###
    set menu_color_normal=white/black
    set menu_color_highlight=black/white
    ### END /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###
    
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
    menuentry "Ubuntu, Linux 2.6.31-14-generic" {
            recordfail=1
            if [ -n ${have_grubenv} ]; then save_env recordfail; fi
        set quiet=1
        insmod ext2
        set root=(hd0,1)
        search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set f5e03e0b-c66a-4fa5-8bd9-0b8d5712f3cd
        linux    /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic root=UUID=f5e03e0b-c66a-4fa5-8bd9-0b8d5712f3cd ro   quiet splash i915.modeset=0
        initrd    /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-14-generic
    }
    menuentry "Ubuntu, Linux 2.6.31-14-generic (recovery mode)" {
            recordfail=1
            if [ -n ${have_grubenv} ]; then save_env recordfail; fi
        insmod ext2
        set root=(hd0,1)
        search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set f5e03e0b-c66a-4fa5-8bd9-0b8d5712f3cd
        linux    /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic root=UUID=f5e03e0b-c66a-4fa5-8bd9-0b8d5712f3cd ro single i915.modeset=0
        initrd    /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-14-generic
    }
    ### END /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
    
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###
    menuentry "Memory test (memtest86+)" {
        linux16    /boot/memtest86+.bin
    }
    menuentry "Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200)" {
        linux16    /boot/memtest86+.bin console=ttyS0,115200n8
    }
    ### END /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###
    
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
    if [ ${timeout} != -1 ]; then
      if keystatus; then
        if keystatus --shift; then
          set timeout=-1
        else
          set timeout=0
        fi
      else
        if sleep --interruptible 3 ; then
          set timeout=0
        fi
      fi
    fi
    ### END /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
    
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
    # This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries.  Simply type the
    # menu entries you want to add after this comment.  Be careful not to change
    # the 'exec tail' line above.
    ### END /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
    as you can see, you have to change the following line ...

    linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic root=UUID=f5e03e0b-c66a-4fa5-8bd9-0b8d5712f3cd ro quiet splash

    to this ...

    linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic root=UUID=f5e03e0b-c66a-4fa5-8bd9-0b8d5712f3cd ro quiet splash i915.modeset=0

    just add the i915.modeset=0 command at the end of the line and dont use my UUID's LOL

    before you can save the file, you have to edit via root the permissions! or just start nautilus with sudo throughout the terminal (sudo nautilus) and edit the permissions (right click, properties, rights) to allow the grub.cfg to be saved!

    my machine runs rock solid and with all compiz effects, the new intel driver are really a plus in 9.10! i'm sure you will enjoy it, have fun

    addendum: there is only one handicap, with each update to grub coming via update manager (might happen some times, not that often) the grub.cfg gets reconfigured and you have to add the command again!
    Last edited by MartinGM; November 18th, 2009 at 01:30 PM.

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    Re: Installing Ubuntu 9.10 on an Acer Extensa 5235

    Nice, I'll try



    Awsome, works like a charm.

    Now, did you also have the problem that on install Ubuntu couldn't find any network interfaces? And if so, how did you fix it?

    I saw something on the internet, the file etc/network/interfaces containing the text:

    auto lo
    iface lo inet loopback

    Changed it to:

    auto lo
    iface lo inet dhcp

    Don't know if that helps. But now i'm wondering how I can check if my network works



    Again, many thanks for the help so far!
    Last edited by Slotkenov; November 18th, 2009 at 08:04 PM.

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    Re: Installing Ubuntu 9.10 on an Acer Extensa 5235

    ping ofcourse

    I did: ping 192.168.0.1

    and I got: connect: Network is unreachable

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    Re: Installing Ubuntu 9.10 on an Acer Extensa 5235

    Hello, I am having thr same problem (Black screen on live CD when trying to install Ubuntu 9,10 on Acer Aspire 5738. I tried following the instructions below, but there it seems to me that there is a step missing (I don't know very much about Linux). I wonder if anyone can help me out and was wondering the same thing.

    Step #3 below says to press F6 for the bootparameters menu. I'm wondering which boot parameter should be selected for this to work?

    Thanks so much



    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGM View Post
    hello Slotkenov!

    i am working with 910 on an extensa 5235 as well and have the same blank screen ... as long as i dont add a i915.modeset=0.

    i can only assume it is about KMS and that the screenwidth of 1366 isnt working out of the box. so, as long as there isnt a bugfix, this workaround is really great to live with. i am working with my machine since 3 weeks rock solid incl. all compiz hardware accelaration and desktop effects. if you want to give it a try, make a test ride with the live cd in the following way ...

    - startup from the live cd!
    - choose your language in the language menu
    - press F6 for the bootparameters menu
    - press esc to get back to the main menu
    - type in the modeset: 'i915.modeset=0'
    - press enter to start the live cd test drive

    the i915 command can be also used in the grub menu, on startup hold down the shift key, you will get the list of installed kernels, just type 'e' to get into edit mode and insert the i915.modeset=0 right behind the splash quiet commands, after this just press ctrl + x to boot the machine with this setup.

    the screen should work now, so it did for me! later on you can make this setup fix in the grub.cfg file, but for now, you just try this setup if it works fine for you. hope this helps!

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